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“Frontline Negotiators”: The CCHN podcast

Every day, humanitarian workers negotiate with different counterparts – from armed groups to government authorities, and from religious leaders to displaced communities – to deliver aid in crisis situations. To negotiate successfully, these professionals need to carefully analyse the situation, create a strategic plan, and manage very high pressure.

 “Frontline Negotiators: Stories from the Field” guides you through personal stories told by humanitarian professionals who negotiate to access, assist and protect people in crises.

Season 3 is out now!

The new podcast season launched on Wednesday, 2 October 2024, with episodes released every two weeks. Subscribe to our channels to catch new episodes!

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Season 3 episodes

1. At the intersection of humanitarian diplomacy and negotiation

What is humanitarian diplomacy and how is it different from humanitarian negotiation? Are they complementary strategies or rather overlapping tools?
In today’s episode we’ll try to answer these questions with the help of Juliet Kenechi Unubi, a humanitarian negotiator and diplomat who has spent over a decade navigating the complexities of influencing her interlocutors. Juliet will help us explore the critical intersection between the two domains and discuss how she manages to transform challenging conversations into successful outcomes.

2. Negotiating in Search and Rescue operations at sea (IN FRENCH)

Search and Rescue operations at sea constitute a relatively new field in the humanitarian sector. Humanitarian negotiations in this domain tend to suffer from a limited ‘room for manoeuvre’ due to the maritime environment in which they take place, the actors involved, and the legal impediment increasingly posed by national authorities. Teams need to prepare strategically to reduce risks for their operations while complying with international and maritime law.

This week we discuss with Carla Melki, an experienced humanitarian who shared about the many challenges of providing life-saving assistance at sea.

PLEASE NOTE: This episode’s interview is in French.

3. Managing pressure while negotiating at the frontlines

Humanitarian professionals often find themselves in dangerous, high-stakes or pressure-intense negotiations. When this happens, they need to understand the impact that pressure has on the human brain and keep it at bay.
In this episode, we talked with Dr Elena Qleibo Kogan about the effective strategies she has developed throughout her career – not just to manage her own pressure but also to care for her team’s mental health.

4. Negotiating with (and for) remote Indigenous communities (IN SPANISH)

Negotiating with Indigenous communities implies particular challenges, from language and cultural barriers to understanding their societal system and how the community conceives their needs.

In this episode we will discover how Dalton Jesus, a seasoned humanitarian, strategically addresses these challenges by building trust and understanding with remote indigenous communities in Latin America.

PLEASE NOTE: This episode’s interview is in Spanish.

5. Negotiating with Big Tech

How is the world of digital technology impacting today’s conflict settings, and how can we leverage tech innovations for the sake of the communities we’re aiming to support?

In this episode we’re going to explore the emerging field called “Techplomacy” together with Philippe Stoll, who is the Senior Techplomacy Delegate at the International Committee of the Red Cross.

6. Empowering women negotiators (IN FRENCH)

When Mariama Sawadogo, a humanitarian from Burkina Faso and workshop facilitator with the CCHN, observed that very few African women were taking part in negotiation trainings, she took it upon herself to find the reasons behind it and come up with a solution.
In this episode, she reflects on the obstacles that prevent women professionals from taking on leadership roles in humanitarian negotiation, and the many invaluable assets they bring to the process.
PLEASE NOTE: This episode’s interview is in French.

7. Empowering local staff in humanitarian negotiation

Local and national humanitarian staff play an essential role in negotiation processes because of their critical insights into the context and the key connections with their communities. However, especially when working for smaller organisations, they often face barriers in accessing inclusive professional development opportunities.

In this episode, our guest Arquímides Farías – a Venezuelan working in his own country – explores how humanitarians can leverage their expertise to support local colleagues in developing their humanitarian negotiation skills.

8. Crossing the Darien Gap: Negotiating along Latin American migration routes (IN SPANISH)

Towards the end of 2024, we traveled to Panama to discuss with Andrehina Díaz about the complexities of negotiating in the context of migration flows through the Darien jungle.
Andrehina shared her experience working with authorities, indigenous communities and migrants, facing multiple humanitarian challenges from building trust to implementing programs in an environment of increasingly pressing needs. A conversation that reveals how empathy, adaptability and cultural respect are essential in humanitarian negotiation.
PLEASE NOTE: this episode is in Spanish.

9. Protecting communities in conflict, at the crossroads of negotiation and mediation

How can mediation efforts help build trust and protect communities in conflict situations?

In today’s episode, we explore how mediation approaches can support protection efforts in humanitarian settings. Our guest, Jérôme Grimaud, highlights the importance of listening to communities’ perceptions and adapting to their own definition of protection for a more effective humanitarian response.

Season 2 episodes

1. Valerie Guarnieri’s story | Setting the negotiation red lines for thousands across the globe

Valerie Guarnieri is the Assistant Executive Director at the United Nations’ World Food Programme (WFP).
In this episode, we talk to her about her first experiences negotiating on the ground, her many lessons learned, and the enormous challenge of setting up institutional policies and red lines for thousands of frontline negotiators all around the globe.

2. Stephen’s story | From British army officer to humanitarian negotiator

Stephen Kilpatrick first arrived in Tehran in 2003 to start a dialogue with the Iranian Revolutionary Guards. He did not expect he’d be left waiting for a meeting for 28 days.
We’re about to hear from this former British army officer turned humanitarian professional as he recounts incredible negotiation stories from the time he spent in Iran, but also Africa and the Balkans, and the many learnings he picked up along the way.

3. Precillar’s story | Understanding a counterpart’s deeper reasoning and motives

It’s the month of May in Iraq. The summer heat is scorching in the camp. Since tankers stopped getting in, people are quickly running out of drinking water and tensions are rising with the authorities. That’s when Precillar  Moyo decided to sit down with her team, analyse to the situation and come up with a negotiation strategy.  

Join us as we hear from her about how teamwork and reflection can positively impact the outcome of any negotiation process. 

4. Luca’s story | Finding common ground across borders

It can be hard to create rapport and find a shared interest between people who see the world very differently.

In this episode, Luca Falqui – a medical doctor with a 30-year-long humanitarian career mostly spent around Asia – explains why empathy, strategic thinking, and even a white beard can help deliver life-saving healthcare in crisis situations.

5. Raquel’s story | Local communities: allies, intermediaries or counterparts?

When men in uniform stopped her at a checkpoint and refused to let her through, Raquel Moreno was quite surprised to see her fellow bus passengers step up to help. However, just a few years later, it was a group of civilians who blocked her truck and forced her team to flee, leaving all the humanitarian assistance behind.  

Whether as sympathetic allies, tough counterparts or go-betweens, local community members play a critical role in most humanitarian negotiations. Let’s hear what Raquel has learned from her experience negotiating with and for people in crises. 

6. Julia’s story | Shifting the negotiation focus to your advantage

Great negotiators know how to make tough conversations easier – for example by picking the right interlocutor, the most convincing team members, and the least controversial topics. In this episode, Julia Paola Garcia Zamora provides some great examples of how one can de-politicise a difficult negotiation by shifting its focus to more practical matters.

7. Rehan’s story | When negotiating means thinking outside the box

Sometimes negotiating means finding creative solutions to get around a deadlock. In this episode, we hear from Rehan Zahid – Deputy Director of the Centre of Competence on Humanitarian Negotiation (CCHN) – whose expertise is lent by our partner, the World Food Programme.

Rehan has been involved with the CCHN since its creation. He has agreed to share some of the most interesting negotiation processes he experienced firsthand, when creativity really made a difference for many people in crisis.

8. Maria’s story | The power of collective negotiations

When humanitarian agencies come together to negotiate for the same outcome, their leverage is stronger. But how do you coordinate a team of negotiators from different organisations?

In this episode, Maria Duncan explains why carefully composing the team and taking advantage of each member’s expertise can do the trick in a complex negotiation.

9. Marika’s story | Setting red lines, upholding humanitarian principles

‘Red lines’ are uncrossable limits you just can’t push past. For humanitarian negotiators, red lines also define a delicate balance between upholding a mandate and compromising on the very principles this sector stands for.
In this episode, Marika Armento reflects on the challenge of negotiating on behalf of migrants and asylum seekers within the red lines set by ethical values, legal frameworks and humanitarian norms.

10. Pascal’s story | Navigating negotiations through different languages

Language differences can represent a real hurdle when negotiating in a context that is culturally not our own. In these situations, interpreters and local colleagues can play a key role by conveying nuanced meanings, navigating diverse body language, and bridging cultural divides. At the same time, working with an interpreter also means possible shifts in meaning, less spontaneous interactions, and a risk for misunderstandings.
In this episode, Pascal Lagneble shares some practical tips on harnessing the power of language in negotiation, turning potential obstacles into opportunities for deeper understanding and connection.

11. Carol’s story | Mastering soft skills in negotiations

A successful negotiation relies on strategy just as much as on the way you interact with others. “Soft” skills like emotional intelligence, self-awareness, and active listening can be powerful tools to connect with the counterpart and create a relationship of trust.

In this episode, we hear from Carol Torres Tovar about how she navigated complex negotiations by leveraging her body language, identity traits and communication skills.

Season 1 episodes

Season teaser

1. Ana’s story | The artistry of negotiation

Ana Daza, a former video-maker from Colombia, completely turned her life around when she took her first humanitarian job. She now works in challenging, high-pressure conflict situations amidst armed groups. She takes care of her mental health by cultivating her passion for art and relying on the support of her team.  

2. Kiran’s story | Relying on negotiation tools to deal with armed groups

Kiran Kothari began his humanitarian career in the early 2000s, in the context of the Sri Lankan conflict, and has since then worked on several humanitarian missions internationally.

In this episode, Kiran shares about relying on the “Naivasha Grid”: a methodology developed by a group of humanitarians meeting in Kenya in 2014 and a handy tool to prepare for and carry out all humanitarian negotiations. 

4. Nana’s story | Preparing is just as important

Just like many of her colleagues, Nana Kharbedia – a humanitarian professional from Georgia – was often thrown into a negotiation without getting much preparation beforehand. In these situations, she had to make do by relying on her expertise and gut feeling.

From dealing with tribal leaders in South Sudan to ministers in Bosnia, Nana shares how she learned to prepare for a negotiation process in a strategic way.

5. Innocent’s story | Learning local customs to build trust in a negotiation

In 2016, Innocent Sauti left his home in Zimbabwe to take up a humanitarian mission in Myanmar. Originally a teacher, he had seen the positive impact of international aid on school attendance and had decided to switch careers to join the World Food Programme.

In this episode, Innocent shares what it meant for him to leave the African continent for the first time and to start anew in a very distant and unfamiliar part of the world.

6. Dariha’s story | When your identity shapes the negotiation outcome

Dariha Erketaeva is a humanitarian professional from Kyrgyzstan – a country that, she says, “very few people know about”. Throughout her career and many negotiations, she’s often found it challenging to be taken seriously as a young woman, as a person from a distant Asian country, or as a non-Arabic speaker.

In this episode, Dariha reflects on how the way one looks, acts, and is perceived by a counterpart can impact dramatically the outcome of a negotiation process, and how she found practical solutions to overcome the problems.

7. Apostolos’ story | From medical doctor to negotiator

Working in a European country in times of peace can be just as challenging as in any other crisis around the world.

In this episode, we hear the story of medical doctor Apostolos Veizis, who returned to his native Greece after many years spent on humanitarian missions abroad. He tells us about negotiating with people escaping disasters and conflict, but also – and most importantly – with his own self.

8. Igor’s story | From toy maker to helping refugees in Moldova

The Centre of Competence on Humanitarian Negotiation conducts research to better understand the challenges and dilemmas faced by humanitarian negotiators on the frontlines. Interviews are conducted with not only humanitarians but also academics, policymakers and civil society workers.

Currently, the CCHN is researching the response to the refugee crisis in Ukraine and surrounding countries. The Research team travelled to Moldova, where people are taking on new ‘professions’ overnight to support the displaced as best as they can. One of them is Igor Hincu, a social entrepreneur who is helping refugee children express and relieve negative emotions thanks to his toy-making business.

9. Mariana’s story | How language skills can help in negotiations

Mariana Ariestyawati, from Indonesia, tells us how she used her interpreting skills in a time of crisis and helped her team build trust with people they had to negotiate with.

In her career, she’s been an interpreter and teacher. She started out in Journalism, where she realised she was interested in humanitarian work.

Are you an interpreter or working with interpreters? Every month, the CCHN holds thematic group discussions on negotiating with interpreters. Read these insights on how to avoid the potential pitfalls of negotiating with interpreters.

For more information

Barbara Sartore, Head of Communication
bsartore@frontline-negotiations.org